Thyroid Connection To Pain

Notes from the interviews of The Pain Relief Project
This is not a transcript but cliff notes from the interviews. The speakers are Doctors, Nutritionists and specialists in their field of health that practice Functional Medicine. These are not your normal diet tips but the medical reasons you may be experiencing problems losing weight and how to fix it. Some are diets that are proven to help with certain chronic diseases. Additional information is provided in the links below.

Suzy Cohen RPh

When your thyroid hormone is optimized you have a lot of energy.
Hyperthyroidism your almost hyperactive because the thyroid is like a metabolic gas pedal too much thyroid hormone you feel anxious, agitated, irritable or not sleeping well.
Hypothyroid is low levels and can cause brain fog, slow thinking, can’t burn weight and no energy.

Thyroid is your fat burning switch.

When you burn fat it helps with your metabolism, weight, appetite and helps keep you warm. Major signs and symptoms are chronic fatigue, feeling cold, coldest one in room, cold hands and feet, depression, weight gain, eat like a bird and still holding onto weight or even gaining. A sign your fat burning gland is asleep, hair loss from head or outer edges of eyebrows, anxiety, increased pain sensitivity, or things just hurt whether it’s joints or muscles.

Testing for this is inaccurate, conventional blood tests don’t pick it up and should be based on symptoms. Increased pain perception is a prominent feature of high inflammatory cytokines for thyroid disease.

In Hypothyroid muscle pain is very common that usually gets diagnosed as fibromyalgia. You may also experience migraines and tension headaches, nerve pain like peripheral neuropathy or autonomic, arthritis, cystitis (bladder infections), restless leg syndrome, cramps and nutrient depletion especially selenium and magnesium. With depletion of selenium and magnesium your going to have pain because you have run out of nutrients and your thyroid gland is asleep. You are now more prone to infections and this all occurs from prescription drugs that are depleting your nutrients.

It’s very common for Lyme Disease to be diagnosed as Fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue. Fibromyalgia is not a disease but a symptom, you need to get to the underlying cause of the pain. Fibromyalgia can also be caused by an infection or pro-inflammatory cytokines, these are inflammation chemicals that are normally sent out temporarily for an injury but don’t go away and start getting churned out by metabolic pathways in your system such as NF-kappa B  and making you hurt. These high cytokines can be measured with a blood test.

Lyme Disease hallmark symptom is pain moves around the body one day it’s the head next day joints etc. Recommends for testing 70-90% of people with Lyme are missed because no lab tests for all strains.

Thyroid disease and pain connection – chronic pain causes significant reduction of tissue levels of T3 without ever altering your TSH, standard test will apear normal and 90% of doctors do the standard test. The reduction of T3 levels and thyroid hormone is NOT inside the cell if your in chronic pain, so your naturally in hypothyroid if your in chronic pain and the test will not reflect that and your doctor will miss it. It’s Free T3 and reverse T3 that needs to be measured. A little bit of thyroid hormone and hydrocodone can go a long way equaling happy.

Anyone taking pain medications really needs to ask their doctor to run the thyroid test and get thyroid medications. Pain medications are highly addictive with many side effects, also many side effects with NSAIDS. Adding a little thyroid hormone may allow you to reduce or eliminate the medications. The thyroid hormone should make you start feeling better and even start to lose weight.

Suzy Cohen has her own line of natural supplements to help with thyroid and pain. Malic acid and magnesium great for fibromyalgia.

Eat an anti-inflammatory diet of no gluten, dairy, soy and possibly the nightshade vegetables. Eat green leafy vegetables they help the methylation cycle to detoxify and dump poisons. These toxins in your system cause pain. Great against pain are proteolytic enzymes and Thyro Script for support. Thyro Script is a supplement found here at Script Essentials Check with your practitioner before adding any supplements.

Avoid processed soy and goitrogens in moderation. Goitrogens are cruciferous vegetables like broccoli and you really need to eat buckets of them to be harmful. Eat lots of phytonutrients and antioxidants.

The TSH test they use to test hormone levels is actually testing what the hormone levels are in the brain. You need to know what the hormone levels are doing in the rest of the body the numbers are completely different and why a lot are misdiagnosed. Must optimize thyroid hormone Free T3 3.5-4.3 is ok, total T3 should be 140-175. TPO antibodies reflective of autoimmune disturbance and should be less than 20. Reverse T3 should be less than 15, this is all in her thyroid book and online web page articles.

Chiropractic also helps, and massage helps a lot because it reduces cortizol that causes pain when numbers are high and you are pro-inflammatory.

The higher your insulin levels the heavier your going to be and the more you will experience pain including neuropathy.

Thyroid disease is often the driving factor for diabetes. 

Statins and cholesterol drugs reduce CoQ10 and vitamin D causing your muscles to hurt, legs cramp, back spasms, loss of memory and liver abnormalities. While on these drugs add back these supplements that these drugs are robbing. If that doesn’t help add a little creatine (small dose) 500ml or you may cramp with that and drink a lot of water. And always check with you doctor. Low dose naltrexone can help with weaning off the opiate pain killers. Low dose is 1/50 of the normal 1.5ml dose.

Tests are inadequate, if your having thyroid symptoms and the test comes back negative ask the doctor about a low does thyroid medication and see if there is any improvement. Personally she would do this even without a test if symptoms were present.

Synthroid is T4, pure is thyroxin and it’s a clean, pure bio-identical match to what your gland makes naturally. Armour Thyroid is a combination of T4 and T3. The T3 is what you want because the T4 is an inactive hormone. T4 has to be converted into T3 in order for you to feel good. If you lack what you need nutritionally to make this conversion because your enzymes don’t work or your short on iodine (most people are) or short on selenium, iron, vitamin C, cortizol is high or a lot of stress. All these things will effect your ability to convert T4 to T3 whether you take it as a pill or pump it from your thyroid naturally, this is thyroid sick.

Suzy Cohen makes a distinction between thyroid sick and hyper/hypothyroid that implies your thyroid doesn’t work but what if your thyroid is working fine your just not converting the T4 to T3 inside the cell. Clinical term is thyroid resistance making T4 supplements useless.

Most with chronic pain are low in thyroid and probably can’t convert you need T3 like Nature-Throid. Taking T4 can cause reverse T3 and more hibernation. If you have no relief on T4 it’s a sign you can’t convert.

Women – birth control pills rob you of magnesium, zinc, testosterone and can cause depression, inhibited sex drive and hypothyroid you need to restore those nutrients.

On her site look for a report called Five reasons you get misdiagnosed.
She also mentioned Dr. Ben Lynch and for testing and information on methylation. Another one was Sean Croxton podcast.

Suzy Cohen RPh web site

Suzy Cohen site for supplements


Disclaimer: The information contained on this site is for informational purposes only and should not be used as a substitute for diagnosis or treatment rendered by a licensed physician. It is essential that you discuss with your doctor any symptoms or medical problems that you may be experiencing.

M. Scherker medical researcher.









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